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Juan Williams Wrong on Iraq and Wrong on Libya

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Mike Rozeff
Published : October 26th, 2011
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Juan Williams thought the Iraqis should be grateful for the U.S. destruction of their country. At the end of 2008, he called Iraqis "ingrates" who didn't welcome American forces with open arms:

"But on a serious level, how many American lives have been sacrificed to the cause of liberating Iraq? How much money has been spent while they’re not spending their own profits from their oil? American money. So I just think it’s absolutely the act of an ingrate for them to behave in this way. Just unbelievable to me."

What's his thinking on Libya?

It's that"We can't argue with American policy now, Quaddafi's dead and the results speak for themselves."

And what does he say is American policy? It's this:

"A man who was an enemy of the American people, someone who killed Americans aboard Pan Am 103, someone who was taking out Americans and acting against our interests in the Middle East for decades has finally been eliminated from the scene."

Was Quaddafi an enemy of the American people? No, he was not. See here and here for details. This photo of a half-smiling and/or friendly Obama shaking hands with Quaddafi, taken in mid-2009, illustrates that he was no enemy.


Did Quaddafi kill Americans on Pan Am 103 in 1988? Mr. Jalil, who heads Libya's NTC, said in February that he had evidence of this, but he hasn't released it yet. Some relatives of survivors are demanding today that it be released. Some regret that Quaddafi is dead, because he might have shed light on the atrocity. One, Dr. Jim Swire, says

"There is much still to be resolved. Gaddafi, whether he was involved or not, might have been able to clear up a few points," Dr Swire said.

"Now that he is dead we may have lost an opportunity for getting nearer to the truth.

"Although we have not a scrap of evidence that Gaddafi himself was involved in causing the Lockerbie atrocity, my take on that was that he would have at least known who was."

Although Quaddafi was suspected of giving the order, we cannot at this time be sure of his role in the bombing. We surely cannot applaud an American invasion and bombing of Libya because, in the words of Williams, it "eliminated from the scene" someone who "killed Americans aboard Pan Am 103." We don't know if that is true.

Even if it is true and even if voluminous evidence appears that proves it to be true, we can't congratulate Obama or the U.S. government for making an undeclared war in order to "eliminate" or kill Quaddafi. We cannot take joy in flouting any semblance of due process of law, even in international politics. We cannot feel proud that the U.S. extensively bombed an entire country as the means to eliminate him, in the course of which a great many innocents were killed and maimed. And so, Mr. Williams is wrong on this score too.

Then, last, Mr. Williams claims the justification that Quaddafi was "acting against our interests in the Middle East for decades." The fact is that Quaddafi was cooperating with the U.S. for the past decade. He gave up any nuclear ambitions. He compensated survivors of Pan Am 103. He was cooperating with the CIA.

But surely he did have interests that ran counter to American interests, and vice versa. So what? No two nations have identical interests. The interests of Great Britain, considered in knee-jerk fashion to be a close ally, have run considerably against American interests. France's interests often conflict with those of the U.S. These kinds of conflicts do not justify invading a country or participating in mass bombing attacks that wound their leaders or result in their deaths.

Quaddafi was not at war with the U.S. He sent no terrorists here. He was against al-Qaeda. There was not the remotest threat to America from Libya, a faraway nation of only 6.4 million people. How can Mr. Williams possibly argue in any rational way that Quaddafi was an American enemy and that this justifies the American policy of sending armed forces to Libya and over Libya to bomb one government into oblivion while supporting a coalition of replacements?

Mr. Williams is badly mistaken. His justifications for not arguing with American policy, as he defines it, add up to a big fat zero.

We can’t argue with American policy, we are told, because America has won this one. That’s a phony-baloney argument in and of itself. Winning is not everything. We have to count the costs of winning. We always have to compare the gains with the losses (costs). We have to do that over the course of all such interventions. Libya is not a one-shot deal. There are also Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Vietnam, Korea, and many other wars, some worldwide in scope, to consider. We have to consider the costs to all sides in these and other wars. Does Libya cancel out Iraq? Hardly.

Does Libya prove that American policy is now right because the U.S. has succeeded in finding another country that it can bomb into submission? Hardly. Suppose that the U.S. had possessed the means to launch a surprise attack on the Soviet Union and had utterly destroyed that country because its leader was deemed an American enemy and its interests conflicted with U.S. interests. Would that have justified a U.S. preemptive attack? Not at all.

We have to argue with American policy, not only because of the evident costs in human and economic terms but more broadly in terms of the moral costs and the kind of world order that is being built.

The development of a natural law basis for international order among rivalrous states is quite fragile, but it is better than nothing. In the existing order of states, we rightfully want justifications rooted in justice for going to war. We especially want such justifications when we unilaterally start a war in some foreign nation, as in Iraq and Libya. We want appropriate procedures too. Without such justifications and procedures, we go straight downwards into "might makes right". And might makes right is basically what Mr. Williams is saying too.

I strongly reject might makes right, from Juan Williams or from anyone else. We cannot realize our humanity with might makes right. The world that the U.S. is building under might makes right is going to be a brutal and terrifying place to live in. Any government that has the might will believe that it has the right to use that might, both domestically and overseas. It will act and concoct thin or fake justifications when it wants to.

If there is one thing we can be sure of, it is that a government with might will not use it in justice and for justice unless it is severely constrained and limited by the people under its rule. This is certainly not today the case with the U.S. government. The U.S. government thinks it is right or at least says it is right, and it finds plenty of commentators like Juan Williams, who believe this and repeat it for public consumption.

The U.S. exercise of might in Iraq was totally wrong. Juan Williams was wrong to think of the Iraqis as ingrates. Today he is equally wrong to applaud the U.S. use of might in Libya. He thinks the U.S. is right because its might has succeeded at removing Quaddafi. That removal is entirely irrelevant in view of how this removal has been brought about. The U.S. and NATO participation have flouted civilized canons of international justice that have been built up only painstakingly and are all too fragile to begin with. Bringing Quaddafi to his death in the way it has been done may be viewed by U.S. leaders as some sort of "justice" and victory, but it has been bought at the high price of once again wounding the moral heart of true justice.

If and when Obama and Hillary attempt to spin the Libya story as a victory for justice, don’t believe a word of it.





Michael S. Rozeff

 

 



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Michael S. Rozeff is a retired Professor of Finance living in East Amherst, New York. He is the author of the free e-book Essays on American Empire. He publishes regularly his ideas and analysis on www.LewRockwell.com . Copyright © 2009 by LewRockwell.com.
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Main Iraq Error: US in 2008 had leverage to obligate an invite from weak incipient Iraqi government, which US support empowered into being, or leave (less than happy) for the overall effort but still having declared mission completed. Bush Jr did not do so. 3 years later the US got the boot. Question: what mission was completed?

Also, you are forgetting the 2 worst foreign policies by a sitting president in US history:
1) the public chastising of Mubarak over "having not done enough." Mubarak was a 35 year (ally might be too strong) associate of the US. His function as gatekeeper East & West makes him arguably the single most important person regards world prosperity over that period. Current POTUS found declared using a Bill Ayers critique that this contribution was inadequate. No strategic rational regards the US and world economics was provided.

2) the very next day, POTUS declared (and this was not in response to a question) that the Muslim Brotherhood had the best organization on the ground. POTUS failed to consider that his statement as the President of the United States functions as a defacto endorsement of that group and all groups that share its views. In a public game of checkers, you can't take a move back. What US strategy was implemented?

Let's pretend the answer is the Arab Spring. Libya can now be seen for what it was - a table clearing exercise endorsed by POTUS for the benefit of Islamic foundamentalism throughout the region whether this be cloaked in democracy or not. That Islam is the main event and not democracy is given by the fact that just after start of Libya civil war, POTUS listed 6 or 7 reasons the US was interested in Middle East. Neither democracy nor the spread of democracy made the list. That Obama back in 2005 declared that the most beautiful sound in the world is Islam's call to prayer in a Muslim city should thus now surprise no one. Let's try from this point on to keep things forward looking, however, shall we. What does a Muslim lapdog POTUS do next?

He destroys the United States fiscally, ethically, morally. Argument - Acorn doesn't fall far from the tree. His womanizing, Harvard dropout father, no paragon himself but rather failed finance minister of Kenya, was and will remain at the end of the day in fact the better man (such as that was). The two trade ideas of restraint with Barack Obama on the losing end - he's got restraint for a picture only - and the whole world suffers from the incompetance and fall out. That in his first book, Barack Obama never encounterd his father as a womanizing, Harvard dropout, failed finance minister only points to the fact that current POTUS is utterly untethered from decorum, normalcy, civility regards the place, time, and prestige of his office. There is no turn off limits, no maneuver off the table - there is no politics in an American sense, because there ultimately is no care for America at all.

Barack Hussein Obama - here's a man:
1) campaigned and won an election in part on his non-support of the war (as a man without a vote on the matter)

2) refused to cut funding for the war in 2005 (a matter of public voting record). Instead while the senior senator from Illinois (Durbin) was in tears on the senate floor trying to end the conflict, the junior senator (for a day) declared he would wait for the ROI. Can anyone recall Barack Obama's ROI for the Iraq War

3) Having the US withdrawal from theater as part of a campaign promise when vote as senator could have taken to end the war - this is not an ROI. Why? Because POTUS, ROI means Return On Investment. You did not invest in either the war or its timely end. You found an end timed to your re-election paint by color politics.

Barack Husssein Obama - a man who believes the United States is his lapdog.

So up to three lapdogs. One is Obama POTUS before Islam. The other is the United States as posited and treated by POTUS. The third is the kind of American who still finds way to ignore the first two. But what does it all mean? Only this - nothing good is going to happen to the United States as long as current president is in the White House. If that seems over the top, naysayer, just keep the score. If your honest you'll track little events of significance like the bankruptcy of Harrisburg PA et al, but if not, then when you have but a single item to present - feel free. Is there a single item post 3/11 in support of the current president? Can there be any in the future? I bet my money only on the answer being in the negative.
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