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"Reinstatement of the Dollar: a Blueprint" (Arthur Laffer, 1980)

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Here's something that Arthur Laffer (who was also working closely with Chuck Kadlec at the time) put out in February 1980. Of course, in 1980 the dollar had been declining in value for a decade, and, at the time of this paper,  had just had a real crash which brought its value momentarily to $850/oz. Mercantilist "easy money" was a disaster. There was a lot of talk at the time of reinstating a gold standard system, which at the time had been gone only nine years, since August 15, 1971. Reagan was on his way to the presidency, winning in November 1980. Paul Volcker had been at the Federal Reserve since August 1979, and had begun a program of "hawkishness" i.e. an anti-inflationary, strong-dollar stance although this was quite confused, borrowing freely from Monetarist principles popular in the day, but in a rather flexible and ad-hoc way.

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Let's look at some of the more interesting bits of the paper.

Done improperly, dollar convertibility could cause egregious dislocations to the financial markets and the economy. If the price of gold were to be set too high, for example, inflation would continue to rise. Interest rates would reach new highs. If, on the other hand, the price of gold were set too low, the price level would fall, leading to deflationary pressures throughout the economy. Moreover, if the technical aspects of the program were defective, announcement of a return to dollar convertibility could create a speculative run on U.S. gold reserves that would abort the attempt to restore gold backing to the dollar.

NWE: Good stuff here. Laffer has a good understanding of how to find a decent parity value for a new gold standard system. There's a tendency to make this problem bigger than it actually is. However, they were butting up against the Murray Rothbard types who figured that you would choose a new parity based on some ratio between base money outstanding and the amount of metal that happened to be in a vault. This was, alas, rather a stupid way to go about things, and tended to produce silly numbers that would have caused exactly the disasters that Laffer describes. Thus, Laffer was cautioning not only against the difficulty of the process itself -- which really isn't that great -- but also the amazing state of ignorance of people at the time, especially other gold standard advocates but also the academic Keynesians and Monetarists, which indeed was quite dangerous. It was pretty lonely having even a whiff of a clue in those days.

Laffer also cautions about the operating mechanisms of such a new gold standard system. People's understanding of proper operating systems was also pretty hopeless in those days. If nobody knows how to properly operate a gold standard system, the result would have been disaster.

A properly designed program should have as its initial goal the stabilization of prices generally at or near their current level. Secondly, the program must be credible and workable. And finally, it should be designed to protect the general economy from shocks to the gold market per se, disturbances that have nothing to do with monetary policy. Stated simply, a workable system of gold/dollar convertibility must not permit the economy to experience wrenching adjustments because of changes in gold. If shocks to the gold market do occur, any responsible system must permit the price of gold to do the adjusting. Therefore, safety valves must be included.
NWE: Laffer introduces the idea that gold itself might be unstable in value at some point, due to some gold-centric condition, and that the gold standard system he proposes could potentially accommodate this eventuality by adjusting in some way if necessary. This was probably a concession to fears of the time. I wonder what Laffer would consider a historical case of a major monetary event being caused by some gold-centric factor. I've never really found one. Some people in Laffer's camp claim such things, but I find these claims are not based on much. Nevertheless, even if such a thing has never happened in the past (arguably), it could potentially happen in the future. It would be nice if Laffer didn't put such compromises up front, but some concession for adjusting to the realities of the day is warranted.

The next several pages list Laffer's plan for establishing a new gold/dollar parity value, and regarding operating mechanisms that follow. Basically, it amounts to:

1) establishing a three-month transition period
2) during this transition period, all open-market operations would cease, and the monetary base would be fixed.
3) the new gold parity would be the dollar/gold market price at the end of the three-month period
4) gold reserves would, over a period of time, be increased (if necessary) to cover 40% of base money outstanding
5) some rather complicated rules follow, regarding Fed actions. What it amounts to is: gold convertibility would be maintained. If gold reserves sank to a low level (indicating the dollar is weak compared to its gold parity), the monetary base would cease to grow. If reserves sank still further, the monetary base would be contracted. If gold inflows occurred (indicating a dollar that is strong compared to its gold parity), similar rules would follow that would require an increase in the monetary base.

This is a somewhat idiosyncratic but reasonable proposal. I think it would work. I also think you could develop a lot better proposals than this. I think it was, in many ways, a concession both to the political realities of the time, the rather pathetic state of intellectual understanding of the issues, and the level of ignorance that Laffer recognized among those that would be charged with making such a system work. I sense that Laffer's understanding was quite good, and that he could have made many other proposals, if he felt that the situation warranted it.

January ... 29, 2012: Gold Standard Technical Operating Discussions 3: Automaticity Vs. Discretion
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The idea of having a three-month transition period, fixing the monetary base, and taking as a parity value the market's dollar/gold ratio at the end of the period, is not a bad one. I probably would have gone for something like an average of the last ten trading days, not a single day's price, which is awfully easy to manipulate. Nevertheless, it's about the same overall. I've said that there are basically three ways that countries find a new gold/currency parity. Option #1: the old currency is totally destroyed in hyperinflation, and a new currency is introduced at any arbitrary parity value. Option #2: that a parity value around prevailing rates would be used. Option #3: that the parity value is returned to a pre-devaluation parity. There could be a variant of the third, which has never actually happened to my knowledge (at least in a deliberate fashion), but which would include a major increase in the value of the currency over an extended transition period (likely years), to some level like a ten-year moving average. I've suggested a one-year trailing moving average as a good variant of the second option (prevailing rates). It could be a three-month or six-month average. I think the outcome of Laffer's proposal would be something like this, probably something in the neighborhood of a three-to-six-month trailing average. So, ultimately it is a variant, I would say, of Option #2. The three-month transition period is fairly short. It is nothing at all like the 14-year transition period between 1865 and reinstatement of the gold standard in 1879, a result of Congress' decision to raise the value of the then-devalued dollar back to its prewar parity.
November 10, ... 2011: There Are Only Three Ways To Reinstate a Gold Standard
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May 25, ... 2012: Why $1600 Is My Price At Which to Return to a Gold Standard System Today



What actually happened, via Volcker's haphazard goofing around, was something like a variant of Option #3 -- a return to a longer-term moving average level, over a period of years. The $350/oz. level that the dollar ultimately stabilized at during the 1980s and 1990s was something like a five-to-ten year moving average, and represented more than a doubling in value from the momentary low of $850/oz., and a near-doubling from the $612/oz. one-year trailing average in late 1980. The "transition period" in the Volcker case did take a number of years of wild swings between $700+ and $300 per ounce, before settling down mostly after Alan Greenspan took the helm in 1987. These wild swings produced all manner of difficulties, notably the 1982 recession which conincided with the dollar's rise from a one-year moving average level of about $600 to $300/oz. momentarily in 1982 -- a doubling of value. This was exactly what Laffer warned about when he said that if "the price of gold was ... too low, the price level would fall, leading to deflationary pressures throughout the economy." (It works that way whether the gold parity value is "set" at that level, or it just happens to go there in the context of a floating currency.) The whole thing was waaaaay more difficult than it could have been. I expect that Laffer's proposal, if it had been implemented in 1980 soon after it was written, would have produced a parity probably around the six-month average of $600/oz., and that the 1982 recession could have been avoided as a result.

As for the operating mechanisms: The convertibility of gold and dollar would have kept the value of the dollar at the parity value, exactly (within the 0.7% "trading band" that Laffer explicitly describes). The Fed is given a certain amount of leeway to fool around, until things get out of hand too much as identified by large bullion flows, and then certain rules kick in. This was a political concession I think. These are rather silly operating mechanisms at face value, but a concession to allow the Fed to more or less operate as it had been on a day-to-day basis without rocking the boat too much. I think Laffer understood that, if the people at the Fed understood that certain rules would kick in if gold reserves either were depleted (showing an excessively low dollar value compared to the gold parity) or grew (showing an excessively high dollar value compared to the gold parity), then the Fed would actually learn to act to keep things in line before those triggers were hit. In other words, the Fed would naturally begin to conduct its daily operations in line with gold standard principles, just as the Bank of England did in the pre-1913 period, even as it operated as a central bank and had all kinds of daily open-market operations and lending activities.

Despite a rather high level of quirkiness here, the basic principles are clear: if the dollar's value is sagging below its gold parity, resulting in bullion outflows, expansion of the monetary base would be halted, and eventually the monetary base would be contracted. The mechanism is clearly a direct adjustment of the monetary base, without any Monetarist M-figures, Keynesian interest-rate targets, or other such nonsense. The opposite occurs if the dollar is rising above its gold parity, resulting in inflows of gold bullion.

A lot of proposals, from many sources, are rather too quirky for my tastes. I think there is egotism involved. People all want to push "my special solution." I personally like plain and generic, not-quirky and not-weird solutions.

Basically, I think Laffer's proposals regarding the Fed and the methods of maintaining the gold standard system would work too. I think they were designed to accommodate the political realities and (extremely poor) economic understanding of the day. That in itself shows a level of sophistication -- a willingness and ability to sculpt the proposal's specifics to fit the perceived needs of the time. Personally, I am more of the teach-a-man-to-fish persuasion. I would rather just explain how to do things properly, rather than trying to build these strange contraptions around their ignorance. But, that is because I have the Internet, where you can learn to fish from websites like these. It was different then. Laffer could have written more books on the topic -- he didn't -- but even book publishing was different then, and a lot more difficult. If you did write a book, and even self-publish it, how would you promote it without the Internet? Get a book review in a print publication? On a book about monetary policy? Also, like many in the Supply Side tradition of Classical monetary economics, Laffer had a Wall Street-related business to attend to, which certainly made him a lot more money than writing books on monetary theory and practice. Writing books is hard, hard work, and almost entirely unrewarded. The years and decades can slip by all too quickly, absorbed in the day-to-day of business, which is also a lot of fun and gives you a lot more positive feedback, and not only in monetary terms. Laffer is not the only one of the Supply Side crew of that era who didn't pass on his knowledge in any kind of permanent form. Where are Robert Mundell's great books? (Mundell did have a number of academic papers, and at some point I would like to go through them to find anything of interest.)
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June 2, 2013: Merging the "Austrian" and "Supply Side" Traditions in Classical Monetary Economics

That is why I decided I had to write books -- even if nobody cared. Fortunately for me, I didn't have any big moneymaking Wall Street businesses to tend to at the time, but was instead happily unemployed when I wrote most of Gold: the Once and Future Money during three months in San Francisco, and three months in Eugene, Oregon, way back in 2000.
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October ... 4, 2012: A Return to Stable Money Requires More Intellectual Gasoline

All in all, while I think Laffer's specific proposals here a bit too idiosyncratic and reflect the political specifics of the time they were written, I sense a strong understanding of basic principles behind them -- the kind of strong understanding that could generate all kinds of different, specific proposals in response to different political and economic realities of some other time and place. I also think the proposals would have basically worked, which is something that you can't say of 90%+ of the gold standard proposals that have been floated over the years since 1980. A lot of people's "big ideas" are just train wrecks waiting to happen. Now thirty-plus years later, people are still pathetically ignorant about these topics, although that has been slowly changing for the better.

It was such a small club in those days. They used to meet for dinner in a restaurant in Manhattan. Today, you can learn what they knew, and also a lot more, here on this website, without dinner reservations. My website statistics show that thousands of people do, every month. Over twenty thousand copies of my book have been sold in English, which is a big number for a book like this. Plus, it was published in four other languages. It was done via the Internet.





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Nathan Lewis was formerly the chief international economist of a firm that provided investment research for institutions. He now works for an asset management company based in New York. Lewis has written for the Financial Times, Asian Wall Street Journal, Japan Times, Pravda, and other publications. He has appeared on financial television in the United States, Japan, and the Middle East.
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"It seems to me that history is actually pretty clear regarding cases where precious metals have lost their value. "

No vox, it is NOT.

"Lastly, commerce was mostly local. No large scale shipping or just in time deliveries. Advertising was virtually non-existent. If you needed large amounts or specialized commodities, you sent purchasing agents scouring the various fiefdoms, kingdoms and major marketing centers such as Venice. "

Any inflation was dissipated into a slow distributive, but functioning world economy.
What we think of as supply/demand curves were meaningless in an economy where everything was hand-crafted and production methods were strictly controlled by crafts guilds.

"We could look at how America was forced to demonetize silver in 1873 after large new discoveries in the west drove the price so far down that people actually preferred to hold paper dollars. "

1. The so-called paper dollar of 1873 has absolutely nothing in common with today's dollar.
2. The valuation of silver (and gold) was assigned by government, not the market.

"Trouble arises when those entrusted with how our tax dollars get spent become reckless. They print more paper, or decree that it will henceforward take 35 paper dollars to purchase an ounce of gold, or they put less metal in the coin, but do not change the denomination stamped onto its face; all because they consistently spent more than was coming in. That never changes."

Therein is part of the problem. Add fractional reserve banking and distributed risk into the mix. Top it off with each individual's refusal to accept personal responsibility and a full-blown belief that their labors are very valuable when they produce nothing. The average farm-worker laying on a harvester cutting cabbages is far more productive than most Americans. Their labor produces a product. Service industries merely transfer wealth with a hefty surcharge.

Government and its subsidiary Treasury Dept is just a service industry. It produces nothing and takes a hefty bite. It is an insurance scam.
Modern banking supports this system. They are the modern day money-changers, the goldsmiths and John Laws.

Economics is simple to understand once you strip all the mumbo-jumbo out. It is income versus out-go. If you carry any debt for non-productive endeavors, you have failed to grasp economics. Carried debt either enables income productivity in excess of debt service costs or you and your belief system are in error. But I admit that luxuries are addictive.

If you lack the means of production, you are just an over-paid servant. Most Americans are physically, mentally and intellectually incapable of growing a cabbage. Perhaps the term "servant" was erroneous. The zoo occupants are complaining about the feed rations and feeding time.

Folks, you really need to learn the fundamentals of economics. Production increases wealth. Service redistributes wealth. Income MUST surpass out-go. No matter how much lipstick you put on a pig, it is still a pig. Or in Dr. Phil's lingo, if you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got. I can already see how that is working out for you. So you might wanna think economics using the acronym KISS.

Oh, you might wanna really study history and quit relying on a cheat sheet produced by someone no more knowledgeable than you. Snap-shot history is crap. No, I'm grossly in error. Crap has value as fertilizer.

Everything is connected to everything.
Everything has to go somewhere.
There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. TANSTAAFL

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Gold as currency or not? I don't know. I do know that when disaster overwhelms a region, the insurance policies take quite some time to collect on. Now what if that disaster were a global event.
I would argue the term, "Good as gold" is utterly ridiculous. Why not just stick to gold? Or silver or growing cabbages? Oo, why not a melange?
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It is rather surprising that you do not see the clear lessons history has provided. For the sake of argument, let us say that you are correct regarding just how seamlessly Spain was able to adapt to the huge influx of precious metals into the system during the reign of Phillip II. Your points regarding the US demonetization of silver--if i understand them properly-- do not hold up under close scrutiny. While there is a difference between the paper dollars issued prior to 1873 and those from the modern era, what they share in common is that both enjoyed legal tender status and so both were dependant upon the wise stewardship of the government if they were to maintain their purchasing power. Your second point that the value of silver was set by the government, not the market, totally missed the mark. If not for the market discounting silver as vast new reserves were brought on line, the government would not have been forced to demonetize it. But the government had to act precisely because the market was speaking and speaking loudly at that. It was the unwillingness of government to act in a timely fashion that caused people to spend their silver dollars while hoarding their paper ones. As is well understood by pretty much everyone who frequents this forum, while government may attempt to regulate the value of particular markets, in the end it is always the market which wins out. By 1873, the market had spoken so loudly on the true value of silver that the government could no longer maintain its artificial price. The government could have chosen to adjust the official gold/silver ratio to better reflect the situation on the ground, or they could have done what they wound up doing. But they could not continue to maintain the status quo in the face of what the market was telling them. Should you fail to grasp this point, then you are more or less left having the position that the government acted capriciously in this matter, without rhyme or reason. But the reason is not a mystery to anyone who does not choose to ignore the reality of the moment. Suddenly there was just way too much silver around for it to be able to maintain its value in the marketplace. It is simple cause and effect. It really is surprising that you would argue otherwise.

Once this is understood and it is further appreciated that future events can (and almost certainly will) produce similar results, we begin to understand why things with a high intrinsic value are poor representations for money. The fluctuations in the value of the representative substance, as determined by the market, can and have had profound effects on the value of our money. And quite obviously, the more we can do to eliminate the uncertainty around the continued purchasing power of our money, the better we will sleep at night. With regard paper, we need not worry that going forward, the value of our dollars will be diminished because vast new forests have been discovered or conversely, (owing to recycling technology) that paper will become so scarce that we will be required to print our dollars with a whole bunch of extra zeros. By using something such as paper, with its negligible intrinsic value, we have a currency that is structurally sounder. For its continued purchasing power going forward, we need only be concerned with 2 things. Firstly, we have to be concerned with how fiscally prudent our monetary authorities are in managing the money supply. And secondly, we need to be concerned that our respective national economies remain both productive and competitive. The first of these is easily achievable if only we would insist that legislation be enacted to govern fiscal prudence and we then enforce it zealously. The second is far more difficult to deal with (regardless of what is used to represent money) in that you cannot bring about changes to productivity or competitiveness through the legislative process alone. But with gold and/or silver as the base for our monetary system, even with strict laws in place to regulate fiscal prudence and despite having a productive economy, our money is subject to large fluctuations in value due solely to the abundance of said metal(s) at that moment.... In short, the fewer free radicals in the equation, the more certain of the outcome can we be.
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It seems to me that history is actually pretty clear regarding cases where precious metals have lost their value. The instance cited by Dom is one such example. Yes, it is true that the results of the transfer of gold and silver to Spain from South America and Mexico did not take place all at once, but it is also quite true that during the reign of Phillip II, inflation rose by 500%. While not the sole reason that he was forced to default 4 times on the national debt, it must certainly be considered a very important contributing factor. But there are also other examples from history. We could look at how America was forced to demonetize silver in 1873 after large new discoveries in the west drove the price so far down that people actually preferred to hold paper dollars. Gresham's law in action. Imagine that! But if that is still not convincing enough, we can look at what happened in Europe after the demise of the Western Roman Empire. The whole idea of money vanished. It would take 600 years before another gold coin would be minted. Japan went through a similar 600 year interregnum during which coins were not minted.

As for gold held in the waters of the oceans, the best--and most conservative--estimate that i have come across is that they contain 20 million tons. That is more than 100 times the amount of gold ever mined. And that figure does not include the gold actually on and beneath the floor of the ocean. That is estimated to be a further 30 million metric tons. While OTE is likely correct to believe that these resources are not likely to come onto the market in the short term, it does seem to be not a question of will it happen, but when will it happen. (There is a Canadian inventor who has come up with an economical way to utilize the movements in the ocean to produce electricity. As a by-product of the generating process, gold is the "waste material".[True, still only unproven theory. But how long before an investor comes forward to see if it actually does work?] ) And there are now a number of companies that are actively working toward starting mining operations in the asteroid belt. This one requires nothing of what one might consider to be science fiction to make happen. This one just needs investors to put existing technology together. And a number of investors with very deep pockets are making it happen as we live and breathe. They will not all be unsuccessful and even if they are, others will follow in their efforts until one day, one of them will be able to proclaim the words spoken by Newton so long ago: "If I have seen further, it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants."

Regardless, the take away point is that basing money on precious metals is not without needless risk. And it is needless risk because, as noted elsewhere, money is a mental construct. What we choose to represent it is up to us. Even a cursory knowledge of monetary history will show that to be true. When we choose something such as gold, we are now not only at the mercy of just how good stewards of the currency those entrusted with its care will prove to be, but we now also face the very real possibility that at some point in the future, large new supplies will enter the market and wipe out the value of the gold backed currency. As we can use anything to represent money, it seems wisest to remove that layer of risk. That is best achieved with either paper or digital (though we would require something unhackable before i would feel comfortable going the digital route). What makes paper ideal is that there is a virtually limitless supply of the stuff and so its intrinsic value will always be less than the dollar figure printed on the bill.

Now i can hear some of you saying that this is a proven recipe for hyperinflation. My contention is that nothing could be further from the truth. Granted, it is not immune from the possibility. It would be silly to make such a claim. In this regard it is the same as any other monetary system. Trouble arises when those entrusted with how our tax dollars get spent become reckless. They print more paper, or decree that it will henceforward take 35 paper dollars to purchase an ounce of gold, or they put less metal in the coin, but do not change the denomination stamped onto its face; all because they consistently spent more than was coming in. That never changes. My point is that by using paper to represent money, we remove a wild card when it comes to establishing its value. And were we to be so crazy as to pass laws mandating to what degree a deficit could be tolerated, (there are natural disasters to say nothing of the occasional nuclear reactor accident and the possibility of war, that there may not be sufficient lead time to be adequately prepared) we could drastically reduce the danger government poses to the soundness of our money. And that should be the goal. The argument that gold can control the spending habits of government has worked neither in theory nor practice. One can only make that case by ignoring the many examples from history. And there has yet to be any new iteration of a gold standard system that gets around the thorny problem of potentially catastrophic fluctuations in the supply chain.

Now, to change gears.

Understanding what gold is right now, not 42 years ago or in 1792, seems more sensible than clinging to the illusion that gold is money or that it should be so again. Gold is not now money. Money is that stuff that governments allow to be issued and if not totally corrupt, it is the only thing they will accept as payment of taxes. Gold is a prudent hedge at this time against what has been the assault conducted against all the major currencies by the various governments and their central banks. If you have this understanding and so have gold as your hedge, it will not concern you that gold could drop further from here in price. Its true value will only be revealed when the current monetary systems collapse under the weight of all the unpayable debt in the system, with the attendant implosion of confidence in its worth. So, it is good that gold is not money, because the idiots in charge of our money have already set the wheels in motion for its inexorable demise and we are hedged against that eventuality. We should also be happy that many of the herd animals have yet to see the danger and so are not bidding up the price on us. Mostly, we should hope not only that the stories of gold manipulation are true, but that the manipulators have far better success in bringing the price down. The way i see it, the system is irretrievably broken and so it is prudent to have an insurance policy. As the end time is not yet upon us, let us hope that insurance can be purchased for less.
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The Spanish conquest of portions of Central and South America is not a valid case.
Although Cortes was doing his conquering thing in the 1520's, the flood of gold and silver didn't come until years later.
You forget that silver was the currency of trade. Gold was for major purchases.
The finest craftsmen of the day were in service to the wealthy and if you wanted to commission a work, you paid a substantial recompense to hire away these top-class craftsmen.
Then there was that not-so minor problem of the "Little Ice Age" that often resulted in large scale famine. Add in a little plague now and then and commodity prices can go nuts.
You forget that the Spanish Armada wasn't built in just a few months.
To build this required lots of skilled shipwrights and a large scale commodity support program.
Lastly, commerce was mostly local. No large scale shipping or just in time deliveries. Advertising was virtually non-existent. If you needed large amounts or specialized commodities, you sent purchasing agents scouring the various fiefdoms, kingdoms and major marketing centers such as Venice.

History is replete with cases of war reparations being spent willy-nilly in support of further conquests. Luxuries are addictive.
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That being said, there will not be any sudden new supplies of gold to be had. No new chemical extraction systems, no gold from sea-water, no, no, no. Scientific speculation is science fiction with the emphasis on FICTION. Ergo, considering the quantity of gold most probably above ground and the world-wide population and see what the numbers tell us. So maybe silver? Even worse due to consumer goods losses. Looks like we are gonna need maybe copper and nickel. Whatever the case, there will be more than a metal to commodity revaluation to contend with. Think weight and content as the new metric of currency. You really think this conversion could happen? The average American can't even grasp the metric system or balancing the family budget.

Or maybe we return to gold-backed currency and start down this same damn road again. Never forget human nature. Sooner or later, nature will always out itself. Luxuries are addictive.
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"I wonder what Laffer would consider a historical case of a major monetary event being caused by some gold-centric factor. I've never really found one. "

How about the Spanish conquest of the new world that brought a steady stream of gold from South America? Europe underwent such inflation that the prices of some staple goods rose by a factor of 600%-700% during that period. So much for gold always being stable.

A lot of gold bugs tend to omit this from their history lessons because it is a strong counter to the gold stability argument. But how could such an event occur today, without new continents to be found? Leaps in mining or gold extraction technology could do it (e.g. seawater - the worlds oceans contain thousands of tons of gold in the water itself). It won't be too long before space-drones could be scouring the asteroid belt for very large nuggets of gold and sending them back towards us to pick up. Who knows?

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