Here is an
interesting "open reply" FOA wrote to Martin Armstrong in 1999.
This was less than 5 months before Martin was jailed for contempt of court.
Martin's original letter was to someone else on Kitco who then sent it by
email to FOA who responded openly on USAGold...
________________________________________________________
FOA (08/20/99; 12:46:41MDT - Msg
ID:11630)
Open Reply To Mr. M. Armstrong
I must reply to this private letter that was sent to me. It was written to
Cage Rattler by Mr. Martin Armstrong.
Date: Sun Aug 15 1999 07:28
Cage Rattler ("Gold was a store of value throughout ancient times,
however money NEVER was!" - M Armstrong) ID#33182:
Copyright © 1999 Cage Rattler/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
Armstrong:
Dear Bob:
You are making the opposite mistake of Karl Marx. Marx assumed that everyone
in the private sector was corrupt and therefore that property held in the
hands of government would be fairly managed. Marx never accounted for human
nature and it doesn't matter if control over money is private or public, both
have historically tended to exploit it for personal gain.
Money is ONLY a medium of exchange and it is NOT, and has NEVER BEEN a store
of value. Gold in itself has been a store of value as demonstrated in Korea
and Asia. Gold was a store of value throughout ancient times, however money
NEVER was! These are two separate issues that should not be confused.
FOA:
To the contrary, Mr. M, these are two separate confusions that deal with the
same issue! Your assumptions always conclude that the values established in a
public "marketplace" represent the private views of the majority of
people. In other words, if someone trades anything using the marketplace
price and using the accepted mediums, the mechanics of that trade must also represent
the mindset of the person. Throughout history, it rarely has. Your view is
further skewed with the "control over money" issue. The world has
always assumed that the "people" want someone to control the money,
be it public or private.
When one looks closely into the private actions and reactions of people
during various civilizations, the mindset of the majority (the average
citizen) was always that we don't need "money at all". Just let us
alone so we can trade our things. The modern argument of the Public vs
Private "control" always found the banks as representative of the
term "Private" and the government put forth as "public".
The "free market citizen" was never considered as a viable
contender to pick the trading medium.
Banks, long ago assumed the roll of making and controlling money for private
interest because they saw that the "free citizen marketplace"
seemed to always use gold to trade with You say:
Money is ONLY a
medium of exchange and it is NOT, and has NEVER BEEN a store of value
The problem with this is that in the old "free" marketplace, these
people never thought of their use of gold as using "money"! It was
only a "thing" that most of them found to be the best item to trade
with. For them (again average people) gold held its own particular
independent store of value just like anything else they owned. Indeed, in
their mind it wasn't the "medium of exchange" money concept of the
bankers in a later time. I submit that even the term of "money" in
the early bible was not in the same banker context. Back then it was more
closely associated with a "thing of personal value" that could just
as easily be "used" as traded. Therefore your statement,
Gold was a store
of value throughout ancient times, however money NEVER was!
does not present a valid conception for comparison. It was the banks that, in
the assumed role of creating money for commerce, decided to make and control
the "CONTENT OF THEIR CREATED MONEY". In this action, by no means
did they represent the perceptions of people who can be depicted as the third
party in this debate of control. Yes, banks were owned by private interest,
but that should not imply that they presented the private viewpoint. Yes, the
people did use the created money (both coin and paper receipt) for trading,
but the mindset of that early evolution did not hold that this "bank
money" was solely a "medium of exchange" Rather it was a
receipt for a tradable item of use. The "medium-only" concept came
into play as the banks lent out more receipts than they had or they could not
collect upon failed "real gold loans". That excess of gold receipts
in circulation could then be perceived as the "medium of exchange modern
banking concepts refer to". We then clearly proceeded to the era you
next present ( as it is explained in reverse):
The Greeks,
Romans and everyone along the way ALWAYS and WITHOUT EXCEPTION played with
the gold content of their coinage which led to Gresham's Law - good money
drives out bad money. Whenever money was debased, older issues of higher metal
content were hoarded. They then ceased to be MONEY (medium of exchange) and
became a (STORE OF VALUE).
With the clear viewpoint that I presented above, we can see that this next
statement does not apply to a post contraction "free market trading
arena". Rather it is the present conjecture, using the present thinking
in a prosperity-mode mindset that assumes the private and public terms as the
only viewpoint. They are only two parts of a three part society.
If you think that
a return to a gold standard in some way will eliminate these issues, you are
wrong! No matter if it is the private sector or the public sector, whoever
ends up in charge will always play games.
Indeed, if a true free market in gold was established and all gold was coined
and sold into the market place, games would still occur. However, new
concepts for hard times would require mines to make all coins to conform to
set standards and pay their taxes to governments with the same (however high
that might be). In addition, they would pay their help and buy supplies with
the same. Private stores of gold (both government and private) could choose
if they wanted their bullion coined or not for a fee. Yes, the value of gold
would gold very high compared to real things, but it did that long ago,
before banks called it a "medium". Anyone that owned gold would be
rich. So what? Anyone today with a lot of cash is rich, again so what? Gold
money is spent and loaned and, in general, always circulated. Just as in the
early days before banks when gold was just another thing of wealth, but not
the only store of wealth in a person's portfolio of things. Yes, banks and
governments would fail and go bankrupt as they always did. Yet, the money
supply would never be changed because of their failures. People that loan
gold money would learn not to count that asset loan as part of the money
supply as today.
Further on you state:
Gold is a store
of value today - but it is NOT money. It is NOT acceptable to pay your VISA,
rent or to buy food unless on a barter basis. Only dollars ( money ) is
acceptable in the US, and now Russia while it may be yen, marks francs,
deniers or whatever in other nations.
Again, you assume that gold is not money because it is not accepted as
"the medium" in the Government / Bank operating economic system. I
submit that this perception represents a short conclusion. If we extend the
thought we find that no government or bank said that gold was not money. They
only decided to not "use" gold as "legal tender money".
Both of these entities chose to pursue this route because they wanted to
create more "money" than was in existence. Something they could not
accomplish using a money that possessed a "store of value".
As I pointed out, the "citizen" and their trading are the
"private free market" that the world economy is and has always been
based on. This market place does not need "more created money" as
it worked fine using the old "store of value gold" as long as the
market could increase or decrease it's purchasing power as measured against
all goods and services. Banks and governments fought hard to stop this
function because it took power away from them and returned it to the economy.
As a result, history proves how poor of a job government and bank paper money
has done without using gold. Your description that follows is an excellent
example of the battle between the first party governments and the second
party banking systems. The third party private person will be impacted from
this abuse of the money system, however, our heart was never in it. Your
words:
I simply disagree
with your interpretation of 1929, the Fed and the wildcat banking era. Your
view of anti-central bank was shared by Andrew Jackson who was bitter because
he had lost money and was turned down for loan in his youth. When he became
President, he destroyed the Bank of the United States and with no central
control, the entire banking system quickly fell into trouble. There are
countless "broken bank" notes that collectors can buy today from
every little one-horse town in the country. Some were in the hands of local
politicians who quickly exploited the system and bankrupted their
communities. The Constitution specifically prohibited the States from issuing
money and because of the hyperinflation of the 1700's.
You are also misinterpreting dictating private investments with restrictions
of asset class and leverage. You now have a perfect example of your no
interference policy for the private sector. Long Term Capital has just blown
up by leveraging positions to the extent of $1 trillion. The uncontrolled
activity of this one hedge fund is going to disrupt the free markets
everywhere in ways you have not yet even noticed. There needs to be a rule of
law that establishes the basic guide lines. It should NOT expand into regulation
of every aspect over investment. What an individual does with his own money
is his own business. However, when institutional money is gathered and used
at the discretion of fund managers who buy into the latest hype like Russia,
then allowing this type of investment to be carried out with ANY restrictions
whatsoever, is extremely dangerous. LTCM is a significant threat to both
bonds and stocks right now. A few other funds are now rumored to be in a
similar position. Such unbridled leverage threatens to bring down a lot more
than anyone suspects. I think there will be investigations and a whole new
set of regulations that will come out of this debacle. The Fed is currently
calling around the street in an attempt to assess the damage. There will come
a day when you will see that the proposal of that I have made to merely
regulate asset class will be far more attractive after the next set of
regulations come storming out from all government bodies that will seek to
restrict every aspect of investment. What they don't understand - they
ultimately kill.
Your argument for no regulation will not even be seriously considered by any
government body I have ever testified before. In reality, there may be no way
out, because the people themselves will demand action because they have lost
money in stocks caused by hedge funds in Russia and interest rates like LTCM.
They will in the end bare the blame and a host of new regulations will spring
forth in an effort to appease the people who demand government action.
-Martin
Armstrong
FOA:
Sir, I have commented on your thoughts because it is important to present the
flaw in this perception. Some of your analysis is in the context of a
rebuilding of the government/banking financial system after a great
contraction. It places little support to gold as a choice to preserve wealth
during this event as gold will not be in demand.
I submit that you have misread the historical attraction to gold that private
citizens impart upon this metal. The human factor always has and always will
gravitate to using things as trading items. We were born a people of earth
with senses that touch, see and feel for value. Whether our trading things
can be considered money, a medium of exchange, legal tender or a store of
value, was never the issue. Governments and banks made them an issue so as to
circumvent our value of trade for their benefit.
As such, when the next downturn threatens to destroy the perceived values
created in fiat currencies and securities, people will then circumvent these
modern concepts and return to trading the most convenient things. History,
not modern computer research, has shown that we will return to gold.
Thank
You for your time.
FOFOA
FOFOA is A Tribute to the Thoughts of
Another and his Friend
Donations are most appreciated, just click
here
Also
by Fofoa
|