One of Osino
Resources Corp.'s (OSI:TSX.V) key founders and financiers is mining
entrepreneur Ross Beaty (18% owner). About a month ago, Ross shared with me why he invested in Osino Resources
and entrusted his investment with CEO Heye Daun:
"Well, actually Osino is a good example of the things
that I actually like and therefore invest in. So I've got a handful of
investments like Osino, but the very first thing that Osino impressed me with
is the CEO. Heye Daun is just a super guy. He's smart, he's pleasant, he's
honest, he's hardworking. All of those things are really, really important.
And he's got lots of experience in the area that not a lot of people know
about. It's an under-explored area, Namibia. Heye lives there. He just lives
and breathes and dreams that region. So he's smart. He's experienced. It's
really hard to beat that formula."
Bill Powers: So to properly understand these drill results, we need to set it in context. Heye, when
we talked several months ago over the phone, you set my expectation for what
would be successful results for the drill program. And so when I saw the
results which just came out, based on my previous conversation with you, I
knew they were significant. Let's begin with you sharing about the simple
business plan that you had when you launched Osino and why specifically did
you focus on the Karibib trend in central Namibia?
Heye Daun: The business plan was sort of two or three steps. The
first one was consolidation, as in putting a sizable land package together,
something that has scale just on the map and that gets noticed by majors and
mid-tiers. But not just scale on a map, but secondarily also geological
scale. Having these pieces in the right places, geologically speaking. We've
done the first step, we've done the second step and the third and I'll add a
fourth step, which is to now prove that we have something real over there and
then to find a big brother. And I guess we are somewhere along step three on
the way to step four.
Bill Powers: The exit plan as you articulated to me when we first
spoke was you plan on defining and then selling this project, not bringing it
into production yourself?
Heye Daun: Yes, I would say so. Although I wouldn't exclude
anything. We have to decide when that time arises, but in principle I do
believe in that approach. I think there are other companies and entities that
are better at building mines than us, even though I've done it before. But
our key strength is to be entrepreneurial, to raise money, to be flexible,
nimble, put these things together, find these things. And I think we've
proven that and that's our sweet spot so that's what we're going to
concentrate on. I think once it gets into construction of mines and stuff,
there's a whole host of other risks that come into play and I think it is
appropriate at that time to consider a sales process. Yes, we are working
towards that.
Bill Powers: And you and the key leadership of Osino have done this
twice in the last seven years already.
Heye Daun: Yes. One in Namibia. I'm a Namibian citizen and we sold
the Otjikoto project to B2Gold Corp. and they built a very successful mine
there. That was great for us. It kind of set the scene and it's our model
really. We're trying do that again and then subsequently with equal gold and
copper, which was slightly different, it was also a development asset that
got merged into the Ross Beaty company. But that was also absolutely key for
us because it was my introduction to Ross Beaty and his group of investors.
Bill Powers: Regarding the geological setting on the Karibib trend
in central Namibia, why did you choose this specific geological setting?
Heye Daun: In Namibia or anywhere in the world, you have to work
with what you have and the geology is there. Namibia has the Damara orogenic
belt, it's orogenic implying it's structurally controlled. And that means
that there's a certain exploration approach that you need to take. And it
also means that there's certain areas where you need to look. And that's how
we started off. We tried to consolidate significant ground in the prospective
parts of this belt, which is what we've done.
Bill Powers: Let's talk about some of the comparables that you're
looking at to determine a success for your current projects. There're two
gold mines nearby. Talk about those gold mines. What are the size and annual
production rates?
Heye Daun: There's the Otjikoto gold mine, which I've mentioned,
which is owned by B2Gold Corp. and it produces around 170,000 to 200,000 gold
ounces a year. It's highly profitable and a very important mine to B2Gold
that's in the northeast.
Figure 1: Otjikoto Gold Mine
And then on the other end of the trend is the Navachab
gold mine, which used to be owned by Anglo. It's got a long and distinguished
history, it produces a little bit less, mainly because it is a limited by
throughput capacity. We are book-ended by these two mines.
Figure 2: Navachab Gold Mine
You asked me earlier why in this area? Well, clearly, even though we have
good technical justification for being where we are, but they are near-ology
too, there are these two successful gold mines in Namibia, but they always
seemed to be oddities. People didn't kind of look at Namibia as an emerging
gold belt. Geologically, the model was not well understood. Now that has
changed in the last few years and so we've brought very strongly this
orogenic approach, the structural approach, which has resulted in some good
to exploration success that we've been having.
Bill Powers: So it was a new set of eyes with a different approach
that has allowed you to even bring the project to the place it's at now.
Heye Daun: Absolutely. That's actually what I'm the most proud
about because, where we discovered Twin Hills, and where we've made this very
recent discovery is 20 kilometers from a six to eight million ounce existing
mine that's been mining for 30 years, had exploration by the likes of Anglo,
Goldfields and others. And we've discovered this undercover. I'm really proud
of that. That's a real achievement. And as it goes worldwide, most
significant gold deposits these days are discovered undercover because most
of the stuff that's open has already been found. There are certain techniques
that we've adapted that are very important that have resulted in this
success.
Bill Powers: With the two nearby mines, what type of gold grades
are being produced? And what type of widths of intercepts are there?
Heye Daun: Generally, as you know, we are in a sedimentary belt.
The type of deposit that we have is a hydrothermal deposit as opposed to
epithermal. Generally these deposits are known to be lower grade but have
bigger scale. Epithermal typically is smaller, more veiny, higher grade, but
less continuous. These deposits lend themselves to big scale. Navachab has as
a historical resource of between six and eight million ounces, that's 20
kilometers away from us and Otjikoto is also a multi-million ounce deposit.
That has been our target. Regarding grades, these mines have generally been
between 1 g/t to 1.5 g/t resource grade, but the production rate is always
higher because they employ selective mining. There's an element of upgrading.
If you relate that back to the intersections we've just announced in this
discovery, the grades are still lower, but that's entirely okay because we
haven't discovered the high grade shoots yet that usually form part of these
systems and we'll get there. But what's different, which is highly
encouraging for us, is the fact that our intersections are so long, 189
meters. The average intersection length at Otjikoto's probably around 50
meters, so it's very significant and I think especially technical groups who
understand this will take note.
Bill Powers: Heye, what I recalled from our conversation months ago
was that you told me, "Bill, if you see in the first initial results
about 50 meters of anything around 1 g/t or a little less, that would be
considered a success." And so when I saw you put out 104 meters at 0.7
g/t, 189 meters at 0.69 g/t and 78 meters at 0.64 g/t, I knew that that was
very positive.
Heye Daun: Yeah. That's just the intersections for the central part
of the system. I'm just reminding you and your readers that we, the Twin
Hills system, the entire gold system is about 11 kilometers long as expressed
by its surface anomaly and by some bedrock targets that we've identified
along this trend. Now, the drilling that we announced yesterday applies only
to Twin Hills central, which is sort of the heart of the anomaly. But Twin
Hills central in itself has significant potential, but so do the other
targets along the rest of the trend. I think it's clear to us at least, it's
very clear that Twin Hills as a camp, or as a system overall has a lot of
legs still. We really do believe that we've got the dragon by the tail and now
we need to slay it. It's going to take a lot of drilling and we are already
gearing up for that.
Bill Powers: You saw some high grades within your highest
individual meter assays were 5.7 g/t and 4.76 g/t, 3.08 g/t, 2.84 g/t and
4.29 g/t over a meter. Could that potentially indicate a high grade shoot
nearby? Or what type of widths and grade would you want to be seeing to
determine if you've hit a high grade shoot?
Heye Daun: They may or may not be a high grade shoot, but it
doesn't really matter at this stage. The reason we included them in the press
release is just to indicate to mostly the North American Canadian audience
that this project has the potential for higher grades. Now when you ask me
what kind of high grade shoot would we like to see? Of course as high as
possible, but that's maybe wishful thinking. We need to be realistic. We're
looking at analogs, for example, the Otjikoto mine, which is to the
northeast, the B2Gold mine has some high grade shoots that go significantly
higher, up to 10 g/t, 5 g/t, 3 g/t. Basically my low water mark here is I
need to deliver a gold resource that has a million ounces plus at a resource
grade of 1 g/t to 1.5 g/t.
If I can deliver that, then I think we could say that we have a potential
mine. I think we're still some way off that. But certainly what we're seeing
now indicates that that's very much possible if not probable that we're going
to find that. What the actual grade of the shoots will be, we have no idea.
It could be anything. And with this drilling we didn't specifically target
high grade shoots. We understand that these deposits are structurally
controlled. We are gaining a better and better understanding of the structure
of this deposit. And as that happens, our targeting ability will improve. The
next steps certainly will include specifically targeting higher grade shoots.
But that was not the intent of this initial drilling. Initial drilling was to
just prove significant mineralization in general and that we've achieved
Bill Powers: What type of assay results should investors expect
from the company over the next few months? And what about our drill program
for Q4?
Heye Daun: Of course, I cannot predict assay results just because
there's a geological endowment and I can't influence that. But I would
certainly say that investors should expect similar results to these going
forward. Although the length of these intersections is quite exceptional, I
think if we match them again that would be, as I say, exceptional, but
certainly they should be interspersed with higher grades. I want to see some
2 g/t, some 3 g/t, some 4 g/t in shorter intersections where it's within a
wider halo of low grades. That will ultimately constitute a mineable resource.
Bill Powers: There are some assay results pending and what is the
time frame for their release?
Heye Daun: The timeframe is short; within the next two weeks to
three months. And just to remind your readers and you, we are doing different
types of drilling in the sort of integrated program that we're running. We're
doing percussion drilling, RC drilling and diamond drilling. The percussion
drilling is there to prove up mineralization at bedrock to determine when we
are through the cover. And the RC and diamond drilling are to then convert
that bedrock mineralization into real intercepts.
The results we just announced are the real intercepts. We announced three
out of seven, so another four are expected. There will be one hole hopefully
in the next week or two and the remaining three holes will be middle of
September. That's for the diamond drilling, which will further confirm or
enhance the current discovery already announced. In addition to that, there
will be further bedrock percussion drill results, which will prove additional
targets along the Twin Hills trend. Basically making the whole Twin Hills
system better, those are also expected in the next four weeks.
And then we are now already planning a follow-up drill program to do
infill drilling, step out drilling, extensions on strike and also to look for
high grade shoots. Now that drilling will probably commence around about
middle of September after we've received all the current results. And the
results will be incoming during October and November. Fairly constant stream
of exciting news coming up basically until the end of the year.
Bill Powers: This is exactly what mining stock speculators want to
hear with this steady flow of drill results. But it takes cash to do it. Talk
to us about the cash in the treasury, your burn rate and what it costs to
drill in Namibia.
Heye Daun: We have about CAD$4 million in the bank right now. We're
going to spend $4.3 million this year, which is if you go on our website
presentation, that's the number that is always mentioned. Of course around
three of that has already been spent. We got another $2 million to go between
now and the end of the year, which enables us to conclude what I've just told
you, which is a range of drilling between now and the end of the year. And
then we'll end the year with about two and a half million dollars. That is
not a huge amount. But remember we are Namibia and we've got a very
significant exchange rate kicker, so we can do a lot of damage with $2
million.
But having said that, that's not where I want to be. My ideal sweet spot
is to do a significant additional premium financing in the foreseeable future
to cash us up so that we can rev up our program because these results very
clearly tell us we need to do a lot more drilling. Even over and above what
I've just told you. That's what we're planning to do.
There are different ways of raising that money. Of course, the market is
much more receptive these days. We've got very good shareholders who stand
behind us. But also I'm interested to talk to strategic investors because I
think for a company like ours, we have such a big land position, so many
projects, a lot of stuff I haven't even mentioned, which we are advancing.
All of that takes cash. I would be quite happy with a strategic partner at
the 10% to 20% level at this stage. And we are actively working on that.
We're talking to a couple of entities who could come in and be the anchor for
a significant premium financing.
Bill Powers: And that, of course, will protect shareholders against
dilution.
Heye Daun: Yes, although in this regard, we are not a prospect
generator. In all of the projects that we have, there's always the risks of
dilution because, of course, we need to raise equity and issue shares in
order to keep going. That's what we've done so far. And because we have such
a diversified portfolio of assets, there's quite a strong argument to be made
that we could farm out some of those. Let's say the non-core ones we could
farm out to others and we will consider that going forward but we still need
to add a bit of value to what we have in order to make these projects real.
That would be one way of minimizing dilution but at the same time if you
have success and you own your projects 100%, I argue that being as we are,
which is 100% owners and operators of our projects, I think is a better place
to be than if we were a prospect generator now, where we would be dependent
on other people's drive and determination. I'm quite happy where I am but of
course it does mean some dilution, but I think dilution doesn't have to be a
dirty word. If the dilution happens at higher prices and you generate value
that way, then I think it is more acceptable.
Bill Powers: Let's talk about Namibia. When I spoke with you on the
phone for the first time you referred to Namibia as the Switzerland of Africa
and you also compared it to Texas, which as an American I'm familiar with.
Why do you use those two analogies?
Heye Daun: Well, when we're looking at jurisdictions, I think there
are a couple of things you need to take into account, but the key ones for
mining speculators or minings investor are riskiness and ease of doing
business. Riskiness refers mainly to political risk, which is uncertainty,
political uncertainty, change of regulations, maybe losing your licenses,
that sort of stuff. In that regard, Namibia can easily be compared to Texas
or Switzerland even to some extent, in that mining regulations are very
stable, have been very stable for a long time and appear to continue to be
stable going forward. Another important consideration is, of course, ease of
doing business. Can you find services, goods and services? Can you access
your sites? What is the weather like? In that regard, Texas is probably a
better comparable because, yes, Namibia is great. We don't even have snow.
We can access our drill sites all year round. We have a weak currency at
the moment, which is good because it keeps our costs down as we raise our
money in Canadian dollars. We get a lot more bang for our buck. Yes, I still
maintain that Namibia's a great place to operate. We are very happy there and
it's definitely one of the top exploration jurisdictions or mining
jurisdictions, I would say. Of course, I have to say, there are always some
issues, there are always some elements that could be improved and we are
working with the government to do so through the Namibian chamber of mines.
But that's just in the normal course of business.
Bill Powers: As you progress the company forward, what would be
some of the key things that would hinder your progress?
Heye Daun: Of course, sentiment, externally speaking, I cannot
influence that. To a large extent we are dependent on, I guess, President Xi
and President Trump. What happens with the trade war and there are other
commentators that can put that into perspective much better than I can. At
the moment, we have positive sentiment and improving sentiment and that's
good for us. But ultimately we are dependent on that sentiment, especially
when it comes to financing because financing is driven by share price. Share
price is driven by sentiments. I would say that's a key outside factor.
Internally, I guess, one of the things we will be working towards is this
company is very intimately linked to me as a person because I have track
record in Namibia. I've done this before, I've raised money, sold companies,
etc. And so a lot of people associate Osino with me personally. But of course
there's a much bigger team around me. I'm not the one that makes the
discoveries, I'm just the one that sets the strategy and raises the finance.
But we are looking at, as we grow, strengthening the team. I think that's
important for a small company. I would say those are probably the key factors
that investors need to consider.
Bill Powers: As we conclude, Heye, are there any final thoughts
that you'd like to share with investors?
Heye Daun: I'm excited. We looking forward to the future. I'm going
to Vancouver next week to the Metals Investors Forum. The week after is the
Beaver Creek Precious Metals Summit where we're meeting a range of investors,
brokers, mining companies, so I think the next two or three weeks are going
to be good for us. And then, of course, in the medium term, we are very
excited to get going on the follow-up drill programs and it's so much easier
to project that excitement when you have conviction, and with these results,
our conviction has just grown tremendously, so looking forward to the future.
Thank you.
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