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>Two Forces and Three Bears  - James Howard Kunstler - 
"That destruction would herald a new dark age" You may be correct in this assumption but I believe it should be limited to the western world. The rest of the world is running along without the need for billions of barrels in crude being pumped every day. Do they want more oil, for sure but do they need it to keep living the way they are, heck no. Look at India and China and you will see that the majority of the world’s people live in a mostly non technological world conducting commerce based on the barter of goods vs. money. Even 50 years from now, if there were no major shift in the world these people would still continue to exist and live happy lives. Would they be as healthy as they could be with technology, most likely not but they would still survive and thrive.

The problem is the people in the western world believe they are entitled to everything. These are the people for whom the world will end when the light switch no longer functions. So please JHK, make sure you limit your dark ages to western societies and leave the rest of the world alone.

I know you fantasize about your utopian world where everyone collects their own food from a field but you've allowed this sort of thinking to obscure the reality of how the world really runs. Peak oil is a myth, even if it weren't humans would still seek to develop that next new thing, or old thing in the case of nuclear power, to keep the lights running. In the meantime as long as the politicians can keep the beer fridges running most people will be content enough to complain about the gubament from in front of their big screen TV's but not do anything about it.

Here's something to contemplate. Why has the government allowed Aspartame to be used in foods when it's been proven to be unsafe? Why is water treated with fluoride when there is so much proof that it's harmful to humans? These first two items affect the brain, hmm interesting that little tidbit isn’t it? Why is junk food allowed to cost less than real food? Could it be, watch it now here comes the conspiracy theory, that the over lords want the people to remain stupid and subservient? It sure looks that way. In this case the masses could easily be re-educated and trained up as farmers while the over lords continue to drive SUV's and live in 20,000 square foot air conditioned mansions using what little oil is left on the planet. Oh there are so many scenarios that could be invented but the dark ages you speak of that will last for all eternity simply won't happen. Just as technology has brought us the wonderful world of oil powered gadgets technology will also bring us more power from some new and/or yet to be developed source. And one thing you can count on, it will come just in time so that those who bring us this life saving technology can extract huge sums of money from the rest of us.


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Beginning of the headline :In these climax years of industrial technocratic society, two opposing forces shape the destiny of government: the desperate effort to control everything versus the decline of the ability to carry out that effort. The result will be the loss of legitimacy and the collapse of government from the highest levels, moving downward until the real power to make anything work re-sets at a feasible and appropriate level — probably very local... Read More
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