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Libor, Euribor, ISDAfix, Energy Prices, Gold Spot Prices... What If All Prices Were Manipulated ?

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We are now familiar with the Libor manipulation scandal, which extends into other related rates, like Euribor. More recently, we’ve seen the ISDAfix, the reference rate for rates derivatives, make the headlines for the same reasons : large banks getting together to manipulate it. Not too long ago, we learned that JP Morgan and Barclays were accused of manipulating energy prices. The price of gold has been falling for a few months, due to « paper » gold selling, while physical gold buying is on the rise... isn’t this a bit weird? Is there an end to this list?

Or, let’s ask the question another way : Is there still « real » price discovery, today, and in which markets? Unfortunately, the answer is close to a resounding ‘no’. As Ron Paul, the Austrian school american politician and economist, says, this manipulation of interest rates by the central bank affects all prices, the same way price controls do in centralized states, the difference being that, in the latter case, armies of government employees are needed to enforce price control with the businesses, while, in the former, a decision by the president of the central bank is all it takes.

Because, as we know, the short-term interest rate is fixed by the central bank, and mid- to long-term interest rates are influenced by it. The $45B monthly infusion of Fed’s QE (the remaining $40B being used to acquire mortgage-backed securities, or MBS) is helping in keeping them lower than they should be, which is, by the way, Bernanke’s objective.

And the interest rates constitute a price on « time », so to speak. Thus, they affect most everything in the economic process, from production to consumption to savings. The price, or value,  of everything is affected one way or the other : your credit, your smartphone, your car, your groceries, your wealth... Consequently, all economic decisions, whether in businesses or in households, are affected somehow. The real estate bubble in the United States, from 2000 to 2007, was due in part to Greenspan taking down interest rates in 2001 (under the pretext of avoiding a recession from the bursting of the Internet bubble in 2000 and the 9/11 attacks). We’ve witnessed the result of that... and the central banks are pushing lower rates still!

Maybe the time has come to take the Fed to court... because it’s certainly not doing any better than those banks that are manipulating LIBOR or energy prices. But, hey, central banks are doing this « for our own good »... aren’t we feeling better now?

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I'm calling you out.

The central bank has held prices down.
How does $37/lb cabbage sound to you?
In my area of Alaska, current price is about $1.50/lb.

It ain't the central bank. It is government spending far more than than taxes bring in that is the problem.
No, I stand corrected. It is politicians attempting to protect fools from their own folly in order to garner votes.

Of course all markets are manipulated.
Always have been, always will be.
In a few months, cabbage will be $2.00/lb. I can wait for the additional $0.25/lb extra. If we assume 100 lbs to sell, I could earn an additional $25.
Every producer, service provider and lender manipulates the market even if it is only locally.

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Not to appear Mac Slavo paranoid or anything, but are you not at all concerned that your very friendly (and overly curious) uncle-- you know, the one whose likeness is found on many recruiting posters-- may show an unnatural level of curiosity in certain parts of some of your posts? i understand he has spared no expense in building a place out in Utah to preserve every detail of your life. (He must love you very much.)

While i am absolutely convinced that you remit all of the various tributes that your uncle demands of you (tough love) for your cabbages, potatoes and whatever services you may provide in your capacity as the town haruspex, i fear you may have gone too far with this post and given your uncle the means to go after you for your bold admission of manipulating the cabbage market. How else could you possibly explain knowing months in advance what the future price will be unless you are the Jamie Dimon of the cabbage patch?

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More seriously though, this entire NSA surveillance state thing is pretty serious stuff and in terms of why it was set up, catching terrorists is probably, in terms of their priorities, a third tier item. Top of the list is gathering dirt on politicians (foreign and domestic). As Hoover (J. Edgar, not Herbie) and every other blackmailer in history has shown, that is how you control them. Number 2 is money. They are desperate for it to keep the bondholders happy (and their heads firmly attached to their bodies) and will use it to go after anyone they think has withheld a nickel. (Do not think that special attention is not being paid to sites such as this one hoping to learn who is buying gold and platinum.) As for the showcased supposed purpose of the program, catching terrorists, it is likely about as high of a priority for the NSA as repealing the nation's drug laws is for those who own prisons. Just as the prison owners need a never ending supply of illegal drug users getting busted to keep their doors open, the NSA needs for there to be a credible threat manifesting itself once every few years to justify keeping their doors open.
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I'm calling you out. The central bank has held prices down. How does $37/lb cabbage sound to you? In my area of Alaska, current price is about $1.50/lb. It ain't the central bank. It is government spending far more than than taxes bring in that is the  Lire la suite
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