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Deflation vs. Hyperinflation

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Publié le 30 décembre 2013
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Most of us understand that the audacious fraud that has sustained the U.S. economy and the global financial system can only end badly. But how?  As far as we’re concerned, there are only two possibilities: deflation; or less likely, hyperinflation.  In any event, it’s time for another go-round in the continuing debate.  This issue seems to pop up in nearly every forum discussion no matter what the topic, so let’s use the holiday lull to focus on something that is almost certain to be more interesting than the markets. To get things rolling, here are some bullet points of our own:

  • Because of its quadrillion dollar size, the financial bubble cannot be inflated or deflated away via a gradual process; only a catastrophic implosion or explosion is possible.
  • The most deflationary event we can conceive of – i.e., the banks failing to open one weekday morning – is also the most likely.
  • The monetarists’ definition of inflation/deflation as an increase/decrease in the money supply is worthless in an economy that runs on credit. To understand deflation better than most economists seem to, you need only consider its most pernicious and destructive symptom:  an increase in the real burden of debt.
  • This is the force that is suffocating Europe but which is being held at bay – barely – in the USA by the artificial and unsustainable suppression  of mortgage rates.
  • Federal taxes are steeply on the rise, putting yet more deflationary pressure on households.  Add in Obamacare, the largest new tax ever enacted, and it’s only going to get worse.
  • So are cutbacks in pension and healthcare benefits.  Detroit’s bankruptcy has opened a legal avenue for states, counties and cities to significantly reduce benefits if the money to pay them doesn’t exist.
  • Price increases for groceries, tuition and health care do not represent inflation –  as how could they if real wages are stagnant? Under the circumstances, an increase in the price of any or all three of those things leaves households with less money to consume other things.
  • He who says hyperinflation is coming must explain how homeowners will be let off  the hook, presumably by an explosion in real estate prices.
  • No fudging that last item, please, since mortgage debt is such a big chunk of what we collectively owe.

What say you, readers?

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I'll take a stab at that hyperinflation scenario. Initially, inflation grows "slow", just 20% or so for a few years...wages don't come close to keeping up. Rising prices affects almost everything day to day (food, gas, electricity, etc), but the money from that goes to corporations, not to the people providing those things. With no money to spare in the general population, service industry collapses for lack of business...so many are unemployed, they can't make the payments.

They lose their houses. Despite general massive inflation, the market becomes flooded with all the homes claimed by the banks, keeping prices from rising so fast (what? I'm imagining a scenario where the banks win? Inconceivable...). Considering how massively manipulated so many markets are, manipulating the real estate market to keep prices down-ish just for a few years isn't a stretch.

Only when most real estate is out of the hands of individuals does real estate also rise in price like everything else, and 100% yearly inflation starts to kick in.
Rick, you make some valid points. I don't pretend to know, but what about a third option, stagflation? I am of the understanding that you can have price inflation, (decreasing purchasing power of the currency), in certain commodities, but also reduced (deflating) value of other assets, such as real- estate, stocks, bonds. Note that this does not mean the nominal price of these assets will fall, it may actually "increase" as well, but at a slower rate than inflation. therefore, the value will decrease. In other words, food prices could increase 100%, and home prices increase 10%, but wages increase 15%. In this scenario, would that not mean the food cost has increased, and real estate costs (value) have decreased relative to wages?(not kept up with inflation). Of course, in such a scenario, interest rates would also be higher, putting more downward pressure on house prices. Back to you!


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